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2417 is for Realists

admin — Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:53:52 +0000

We here at 2417 are developing the birthplace of not just an idea but hopefully a movement. Business owners don’t get to take the time to go camp out and throw Frisbees in protest because we have to run our shops and take care of the daily tasks in order to pay our taxes and buy Frisbees for those that are a drain on our economy. We are a group of business owners that are forced to cut corners anyway we can to make our business function. It is appalling how much red tape you have to clear in order to get a business up and running and it is also appalling to see lazy fucks sitting around asking for government handouts. The next absolute headache with our businesses is the process of hiring and the fiasco that ensues in order to get the employee up to code.
There is so much that has to be done in order to just get to where you can finally start working on your business and the customers that think you have time to hold their hands as they make up their minds. These blockades of bureaucratic bullshit that has been put into place have shot down who knows how many individuals. The fact that you have to pay so much out of pocket before you even get started with your business is the reason we see so few businesses getting started. Small businesses are the American way and make this country what it is yet if you don’t have the capital to pay for all the transactions and licensing and building code improvements you can kiss that goodbye.
Getting all setup and all the paper mess out of the way it is tax time and you are once again stuck focusing on that bullshit than working on your company. It’s time that to collaborate with one another to find shortcuts and get the message out that things need to change if we want to create jobs and bring the country’s economic prosperity back online. If you have anything you wish to share we would love to hear from you. Even if you have some negative things to say we don’t care because we know we can’t be right all the time and an open forum is the way to progress forward.

2417 is for illegal immigration (read on)

admin — Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:50:00 +0000

Why do media outlets try and portray every opposition with banter about racism? This is a thin last leg to stand on as they use the term so much that it is being played out and losing its power. There is nothing worse than just trying to fix a broken system and by having different beliefs you are simply deemed insane, stupid, or racist. I just want to fix my business, country and taxes you assholes. The only thing keeping racism alive is the fact that it is coined about everyone in the tea party and conservative groups. I personally love immigrants because they are the hardest workers that strive to make is out of their countries and move to a distant land in order to better themselves. This is the American spirit, where we are given nothing but make a fortune out of it. Now a lot of Americans have grown spoiled with the riches and started to slack off in the work force and education. Illegal immigrants from Central and South America work tirelessly to just get to the boarder and then risk their very lives to get across. This is a sign of the dedication that these people go through for a better life. The downside is that they also bring felons across the border as well as they put a strain on our healthcare system due to non-payment. What I would like to do is do a free trade deal with Mexico where, for every illegal immigrant that crosses the border we keep and give amnesty and citizenship and the deport felons in our criminal system as well as undeserving welfare and disability scammers. This would be kind of similar to England just dumping their prisoners off in Australia where they are doing just fine. It is simple in theory but would save us a fortune in taxes. Let us hear your thoughts on ways to improve the government and taxes.

Getting 2417 started to benefit

admin — Fri, 27 May 2011 08:49:57 +0000

Yes we started 2417 to benefit from but not exactly like you think, because we started this project in order to turn the table on a pro-government agenda as it needs to become smaller and more efficient at passing and nullifying bills. Why do we keep trying to pass federal laws that are cast over the whole union? Each state is different as we can see that some things for one state that won’t for another. Let us say California is like America’s Greece. California has promised pensions that were astronomical as well as benefits and expanded their state government well over its maximum limit. Because of this California is in major financial shambles and yet the other 49 states has to pick up their slack do to the fact that California was greedy bastards that couldn’t contain their load. The other 49 states are in bad enough condition and it just add burden to them for California’s negligence and stupidity. For this reason we have to separate the country into more of a republic typesetting and bring a person’s vote down to state level. We know that states are different as some are made up of a majority of liberals, conservatives, or neutral. Due to the differences in majorities means legislature is going to be vastly different. We watched as Massachusetts tried to provide a social healthcare program and it nearly bankrupted the state before the recession. So if we create a socialized healthcare we are going to have to pay for everyone’s healthcare as well as all the government employed overseers and so called fraud experts. No telling what the lawyers will eat up with lawsuits facing the federal government. If we want social healthcare than lets vote on it state by state. This is just a topic for discussion but I wrote this in order to get you the people talking and voting with states’ rights in mind (If you believe in states’ rights).

2417 project – One for all and all for one country

admin — Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:21:55 +0000

We have endlessly debated on how to correct the way our government should be run and we have ran in to some great debates that have become heated at times. This is just the differences that make this country great and we like to think we are level headed enough to accept policy that we don’t always completely agree with. What we did agree with was that the state and local governments were growing too large to where they were employing far too many individuals that in all actuality are non-producers. Government jobs are based on incoming taxes and therefore they do nothing but eat up the producers taxes. Our government officials have always had good benefits as well as comparable salaries but do to the fact that they have grown so much we cannot continue to pay for their lack of societal contribution. We agreed upon the equal fluctuation of government and economy. If the economy shrinks than so does the government. This subject we will get into and go in depth further in due time.
Next is the governments social programs that have gone out of control. The hard truth is that there are many thieves in the social system and that includes double dippers. We have a tendency to take the easy way out because we have simply lost our pride and standards. There are far too many undeserving individuals that are on social security and disability. The fact of the matter is that we have to snoop out the undeserving and cut the line. The start of this was with Florida’s drug testing policy for welfare recipients. This can be a great move to start tossing the phonies out of the system. Social security programs have been robbed blind by everyone and especially government officials which leaves the baby boomers as well as everyone else to be shit out of luck. I can only hope that some illegal immigrants falsely use my SSN number that way I might actually be able to collect a portion of what I already paid into it.

2417 project is soon to start

admin — Fri, 04 Feb 2011 21:42:41 +0000

Us here at 2417 are working on developing not just an idea but a movement. We are a group of small business owners that have had to cut corners anyway we could in order to make our business work and after a long discussion with more and more business owners we see that we have all violated one thing or another that either a local, state, or government had set in place. It is absolutely disgusting how much red tape you have to clear in order to get a business up and running. The next absolute headache is the hiring process and what all is needed in order to get them up to code. There is so much that has to be done in order to just get to where you can finally start working on your business itself. These blockades that they are putting in place have shot down who knows how many individuals. The fact that you have to pay so much out of pocket before you even get started with your business is the reason we see so few businesses starting up. Small businesses are a true backbone to the American way and make this country what it is yet if you don’t have the capital to pay for all the transactions and licensing and building code improvements as well as all the other expenses that will nickel and dime your business to death. It’s time that we collaborate with each other to find shortcuts and get the message out that things need to drastically change if we wish to create jobs and bring the country’s economic powerhouse back online. If you have anything you wish to share we would love to hear from you. Even if you have some negative things to say we don’t care because we know we can’t be right all the time and an open forum is the way to progress forward.

2417 project in its infancy

admin — Sat, 08 Jan 2011 13:41:20 +0000

The 2417 project is an ongoing development of a group page and forum dedicated to those who are an independently driven force in the economy of America. As we sit and watch as individuals sit on their lazy asses and collect unemployment to the furthest extent before they are cut off and we as hardworking entrepreneurs work to better ourselves and our families we are then deemed by government as a producer that has to foot the bill for unemployment, social security theft, disability, and welfare. There are many of us out there who work endless hours thus giving us the name of this site because we aren’t just 24/7 because we work to no avail and do so diligently yet we are burdened with the bills of leaches. Like most government plans, they start out sounding good on paper yet they never work as intended and are always over budget. We have to hire inefficient government employees to watch over inefficient government programs. There are many problems that trickle down to become a bill for us to pay and in the times of recession and depression there are those who wish to eat the rich and see them as a threat to the greater good. This is no Tea Party or any type of political banter, this is just a site for those young and old and in every race that are tired of working diligently their whole life and getting punished for it. This is not an anti-government that wishes for anarchy or a capitalist takeover. We have real problems with the economic outlook of this country and with individuals like us being too busy to go and protest for days, we have to find a way to become the squeaky wheel. This is a plan in its infancy but I wish for this to become a main hub of collaboration for this of us out there that still believe that this is the land of opportunity where we are only limited by ourselves.